response to http://www.livejournal.com/community/apothecarium/19210.html
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http://www.geocities.com/singular_truth/confessions.html
Mr. Mather sounds like a sellout? No, he sounds like a person of integrity and goodwill.
He was willing to put his long-held beliefs to the test. Ones that he went to substantial expense for - between time invested in learning and money invested in equipment.
He was strong enough to face what he uncovered and to give up his erroneous beliefs changing the course of his life away from what he expected and had prepared for.
Here you are, upset because these people are showing links to actual studies. If you can come up with acceptable reasons how these studies are flawed, and design ones that are better tests -- otherwise it sure doesn't look good for iridology.
Anecdotal evidence, such as the story about your sister being properly helped, or your coworkers curiousity don't prove that iridology works. Mather explains well how iridologists in practice can find out what is wrong with people and treat them. It's more akin to cold-reading or good bedside manner; it takes asking enough questions to uncover the problem. The eyes alone don't have it.
Now the results of actually helping people is good. Much of medicine, both allopathic and alternative is art rather than science. Much of it involves the psychology of the patient. If you are a good listener and put the real effort into understanding the treatments - herbs and such - you prescribe, then you can do some good as an alternative practitioner. If it makes your patients trust you more or feel more like you are being scientific and special by taking pictures of your eyes, then go for it I suppose.
What upsets me is your attitude of putting your fingers in your ears and go "Nyah nyah I can't hear you." Not all alternatives are created equal. Better to put your efforts into learning properly those that have been actually shown to be useful or to have the courage to test the others properly and honestly yourself.
Who is more of a sellout? The person who honestly evaluates and reevaluates their position as they get new information? Or the one who is "distressed" when confronted with evidence in conflict with a pet theory?
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http://www.geocities.com/singular_truth/confessions.html
Mr. Mather sounds like a sellout? No, he sounds like a person of integrity and goodwill.
He was willing to put his long-held beliefs to the test. Ones that he went to substantial expense for - between time invested in learning and money invested in equipment.
He was strong enough to face what he uncovered and to give up his erroneous beliefs changing the course of his life away from what he expected and had prepared for.
Here you are, upset because these people are showing links to actual studies. If you can come up with acceptable reasons how these studies are flawed, and design ones that are better tests -- otherwise it sure doesn't look good for iridology.
Anecdotal evidence, such as the story about your sister being properly helped, or your coworkers curiousity don't prove that iridology works. Mather explains well how iridologists in practice can find out what is wrong with people and treat them. It's more akin to cold-reading or good bedside manner; it takes asking enough questions to uncover the problem. The eyes alone don't have it.
Now the results of actually helping people is good. Much of medicine, both allopathic and alternative is art rather than science. Much of it involves the psychology of the patient. If you are a good listener and put the real effort into understanding the treatments - herbs and such - you prescribe, then you can do some good as an alternative practitioner. If it makes your patients trust you more or feel more like you are being scientific and special by taking pictures of your eyes, then go for it I suppose.
What upsets me is your attitude of putting your fingers in your ears and go "Nyah nyah I can't hear you." Not all alternatives are created equal. Better to put your efforts into learning properly those that have been actually shown to be useful or to have the courage to test the others properly and honestly yourself.
Who is more of a sellout? The person who honestly evaluates and reevaluates their position as they get new information? Or the one who is "distressed" when confronted with evidence in conflict with a pet theory?