May. 25th, 2009

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Cyprus does have a history that goes back 10,000 years.
http://www.windowoncyprus.com/newpage110.htm

Birthplace of Aphrodite and important source of copper, it has been allied with the Minoans/Mycenaeans/Phoenicians/Assyrians/Egyptians(under Pharaohs)/Persians/Greeks(under Alexander/Ptolemaic Egyptians/Romans/Byzantines/English/Franks/Venetians/Ottomans - apparently often picking a new overlord to get rid of the last one. At one point it was even a gift from Julius Caesar to Cleopatra, but then Augustus wanted it back.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/cy.html
While it's land area is 20 times Malta's (about 9250 sq km or 0.2 Californias(0.4 Oregons)), it's population is only twice as big as Malta's (about 800,000 or between San Francisco & San Jose).

Google Map's version of Cyprus is very much a black hole. Major areas like Paphos show up completely empty in the map view, yet the satellite view clearly shows a city is there.


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So far Window on Cyprus is the most informative site I've found even if it does have a page of alien abduction reports and doesn't seem to have been updated much in the last few years.
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Is about 1/5 the land area of Cyprus and has about 1/2 the population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland,_California

It's history is not documented nearly as far back as Cyprus's is, but was apparently never part of the Egyptian, Persian, Greek(makedonian), Assyrian, Roman, Byzantine, or Ottoman empires.

However [livejournal.com profile] vakratunda called me a little earlier today to say that in the 1800s people who had a choice and some means preferred Oakland to San Francisco as a much nicer place to live.

I'm biased. I've lived in Oakland and not in San Francisco. Given a choice now, I'd be more likely to pick Oakland than San Francisco, IFF I could pick which parts of Oakland.

I find Oakland so often maligned. I remember even in the early 80s that people would assume you were going to say something bad if you mentioned Oakland. Unless it was about sports.

The famous Getrude Stein quote about Oakland "There's no there there." Is typically used as a putdown.
But actually it was just her way of phrasing "You can't go home again". That going back as an adult to a place you lived as a child isn't really possible. It's changed as much as you have. It's not a frozen slice of your memory.

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